Realistic level of accuracy from doubles?

[norfolk shooter]

I'm just saying I found it helped

 

[CTDolan]

Well this article about the process Westley Richards undergo clearly shows the chap regulating the rifle using a front rest so it can't have too much of an adverse impact?
I appreciate what you're saying about the dynamics of a double being different but I can't see how this particular detail makes any odds?

https://www.theexplora.com/regulating-double-rifle-at-westley-richards/

If you read the comments which follow the blog post itself the above is discussed.

Again, it is a matter of degree.

 

[CTDolan]

I was always of the understanding that muzzle flip and recoil occurred after the bullet had left the barrel (in real terms where you as the shooter reacts to it I mean), and therefor didn't actually have any tangible effect on accuracy, more the anticipation of said recoil would cause the shooter to flinch....

No, the rifle is in motion while the bullet is still in the barrel. It isn't much but is present.

 

[Ukstalker.375]

If you read the comments which follow the blog post itself the above is discussed.

Again, it is a matter of degree.

Hi, yes, read through them with interest, but as the regulator says, (and as demonstrated by their test targets) they don't notice any discernible difference..... I guess there may be a difference in POI dependant on the style of shooting no different than if zeroing a BA rifle off bipod for example, I do appreciate these things all (in theory) increase variables, but I've not yet seen any science to back it up.

And the second point about the barrel moving while the bullet is still in it, again, I agree, but we don't react that fast, so my point (I think) is that the bullet has probably left the barrel before us mere mortals react to the situation and have any great affect on the path that bullet takes?

 

[CTDolan]

Again, it is a matter of degree.

With regard to reaction to recoil, it is not that we react in such a period of time (prior to the bullet having exited the barrel) but rather that we, coupled to the rifle as we are, have become part of the system. In other words, the rifle's movement under recoil is affected by its interaction with the shooter.

In his book, in a chapter titled "Problem Solving", Graeme Wright speaks of this, of the effect shooting position can have on the result. And, he in essence states the same, which is that it is a matter of degree. In other words, it is a question of the manner in which the rifle behaves, the ability of the shooter, and what is considered an acceptable result.

 

[norfolk shooter]

All I have to say on the subject of recoil and how the shooter deals with it is follow through. Following through on the shot can half the group size. If it didn't work the British army would not have it as part of the skill at arms module.

 

[Ukstalker.375]

Again, it is a matter of degree.

With regard to reaction to recoil, it is not that we react in such a period of time (prior to the bullet having exited the barrel) but rather that we, coupled to the rifle as we are, have become part of the system. In other words, the rifle's movement under recoil is affected by its interaction with the shooter.

In his book, in a chapter titled "Problem Solving", Graeme Wright speaks of this, of the effect shooting position can have on the result. And, he in essence states the same, which is that it is a matter of degree. In other words, it is a question of the manner in which the rifle behaves, the ability of the shooter, and what is considered an acceptable result.

This makes sense, there becomes a partnership between shooter and rifle, but there has to be a sterile baseline to work from I would imagine, which in reality will be the point at which the rifle is regulated as after that point there will be too many variables to take into account.....

 

[CTDolan]

This makes sense, there becomes a partnership between shooter and rifle, but there has to be a sterile baseline to work from I would imagine, which in reality will be the point at which the rifle is regulated as after that point there will be too many variables to take into account.....

That about sums it up. One does their best and makes it work.

 

[Ukstalker.375]

Well, it’s taken a while to get round to this; but a change of ammo from federal 270gr to 300gr powershok seems to have had the desired affect, 4 shots, 1 inch, at the regulated distance of 60m off sticks.

Now, anyone with experience of chapuis doubles know why one of my ejectors has decided to stop working?!?! Nothing is ever simple is it!

 

[Opposite Pole]

Well, it’s taken a while to get round to this; but a change of ammo from federal 270gr to 300gr powershok seems to have had the desired affect, 4 shots, 1 inch, at the regulated distance of 60m off sticks.

Now, anyone with experience of chapuis doubles know why one of my ejectors has decided to stop working?!?! Nothing is ever simple is it!

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That’s some fair shooting. Sorry I can’t help you with the ejector, I’ve never even seen a Chapuis rifle in real life. I once had an issue with one of my ejectors on O/U Beretta shottie, turned out that the fore end was a bit loose and the ejector mechanism was relying on it being tight, after adjusting it it worked perfectly.