Bob Nelson 35Whelen
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@Rosch@Doug Hamilton
The link of the picture I'm refering to is beneath the quote in the post ......
Yellow bright marked. Look closer....... helps sometimes
I do critisize Your post, that You think You're ".....not feeling undergunned" with a 300 Win and 200 grain shooting at giraffe or eland. And I've said: You are.
Some details in front: Giraffe bones are the most hard bones in african wildlife. They were used for weapons and tools before the white man entered the continent. So giraffe is not made of wet phonebooks!
Then, I shot myself about 10 Elands from big to small and I exeprienced every time, that eland is an example for african severity and mobility. In any way!! This animal stands, about 1000kg lifeweight, next to a cattle fence ( 120-140cm) and jumps out of the stand over that fencing without a blink! Just like this.
This animal is stout, made of pure muscles, damed thick bones and fat inside everywhere. Even a 375H&H is quiet busy chewing a way through all this tissue and rocket hard material.
You talk like it's a walk in the park to hunt it save and humane with a 300 Winchester? My opinion: Bullshit!
Besides, the 375, (which I would carry minimum for a hunt like this) offers power, which is double relating to "killing power score" (https://www.chuckhawks.com/rifle_killing_power_list.htm) than the 300 Win.
We've one successfull hunter (@fourfive8) with a big nice eland bull down and dead in the upper post. (Ach ja...For the photo just click the Link down here).
No, not just a talker, he's a real hunter with a picture as a proof. You will read about that guy, that he felt happy with the 416 and not overgunned. And .416 is quiet far above my advise.
In respect of the thread owner I finish my comments about this issue right here.
Wright, do and think what You want and remember my words when You walk sweating and swearing behind Your expensive trophy, worrying if it will be found before night or the maggots and shakals get it first ??! We'll see.. !
I have seen the 375H&H fail on a giraffe. Not because of the caliber but thru the wrong choice of projectiles. One projectile was found with just the cup stuck to the heart minus the core. Projectile choice plays a big part in hunting.
I have NOT shot eland or giraffe but would gladly use my Whelen on either with either a 275g or 300gn Woodleigh and not feel undergunned. A lot of These animals have been taken with the 300WM,7mms and even the old 303 British using the 215gn soft point.
The argument over caliber seems to me to be a bit over done. My PH has taken eland with a bow so was he undergunned.
Yes more may be better as long as you can use it properly BUT please don't knock another person's choice especially if they are using the correct projectiles for the job in an adequate caliber. If a 175gn in a 7x57 will work adequately why won't a 300 with a 200 or 220gn.
This mine is bigger and better than yours seems silly, the proof is in the dead animal as long as the caliber is adequate to get the job done humanely.
Bob
