What Happened to the 27 Nosler

I’ll stick to my 270 Weatherby thank you!
 
I’ll stick to my 270 Weatherby thank you!
No love for a .270WSSM, .270SAUM, .270RUM, .270WSM or coming soon, a 6.8 Creedmoor? It'll never end! LOL
 
Simple really. It is for when the .270WIN, .270WSM, .270WBY, and God knows what else simply will not do. :unsure:
I'm not a theologian, however...

"What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun." Ecclesiastes 1:9
 
I'm not a theologian, however...

"What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun." Ecclesiastes 1:9
“Except when under a full blood wolf moon” TownsendNelson 243:35.
 
I will own one at some point. If it will push the 150 gr pills at 3300 fps as advertised it will be a hammer. There is a decent selection of hunting bullets in 150 gr not much in the way of match bullets though. Always liked the .270 so if I can get a big brother to it and shoot the same pills that would be awesome. And give me a little more gas than the 7 mag.
 
The 27 Nosler sounds like a great round, but I think I'll just hold onto my beater 270 Weatherby I bought for $800 and call it good. I hit the scuba tank hanging from a chain at 845 yards five times in a row with it. I did wait a minute between shots because of it's skinny 26" barrel though.
 
Bringing out my inner curmudgeon. I don't see a single rifle caliber designed after 1965 that has added anything meaningful except in .458 caliber

6.5 Creedomoor compared to the 265 Win Mag in a nice pre-64 Model 70?

270 Nosler or WSM compared to the 270 Win or 270 Weatherby?

7mm We have the 7mm Mauser and 7mm Rem Mag

300 RUMs etc Better than a 30-06, 300 Win or Weatherby Magnum

338's 338 Win Magnum still looks pretty damn good

375 375 H&H and 375 Weatherby still pretty awesome

416, 423 Rigby, Rem Mag and 404 Jeffery

458 I guess this is the exception that proves the rule, 458 Lott and 450 Rigby are an improvemnt

500s 500 NE, 500 Jeffery, 505 Gibbs

Respectfully,

Inner Curmudgeon
 
If there were only one cartridge choice in each diameter, the shooting world would be a boring place.
 
So they make a 26...27....28 and 30......what is each for?......
Because if we do not have new cartridges developed and constantly pushing the laws of physics we would still be here. :--) ROFL

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The Nosler cartridges are all decent in SAAMI form in a standard length action, but most of the craze behind them has been the custom chamberings in magnum length actions with long throats for heavy for caliber high BC bullets...mainly Berger's. The .277 caliber has long suffered from a lack of bullet selection compared to others and I think just now Berger has introduced the 170gr 0.277 bullets. COVID and the subsequent component hoarding led to most manufacturers prioritizing high demand components and 27 cal was likely further down the list.

I do own a longer throated 33 Nosler and with 250gr bullets on top of H4831SC it is one of the most consistently accurate rifles I own. Probably not much different than 338 Win or 340 WBY but its beltless and I wanted something a little different.
 
The Nosler cartridges are all decent in SAAMI form in a standard length action, but most of the craze behind them has been the custom chamberings in magnum length actions with long throats for heavy for caliber high BC bullets...mainly Berger's. The .277 caliber has long suffered from a lack of bullet selection compared to others and I think just now Berger has introduced the 170gr 0.277 bullets. COVID and the subsequent component hoarding led to most manufacturers prioritizing high demand components and 27 cal was likely further down the list.

I do own a longer throated 33 Nosler and with 250gr bullets on top of H4831SC it is one of the most consistently accurate rifles I own. Probably not much different than 338 Win or 340 WBY but its beltless and I wanted something a little different.
I’m hearing even heaver, I’ve seen I think 180’s already.
 
Bringing out my inner curmudgeon. I don't see a single rifle caliber designed after 1965 that has added anything meaningful except in .458 caliber

6.5 Creedomoor compared to the 265 Win Mag in a nice pre-64 Model 70?

270 Nosler or WSM compared to the 270 Win or 270 Weatherby?

7mm We have the 7mm Mauser and 7mm Rem Mag

300 RUMs etc Better than a 30-06, 300 Win or Weatherby Magnum

338's 338 Win Magnum still looks pretty damn good

375 375 H&H and 375 Weatherby still pretty awesome

416, 423 Rigby, Rem Mag and 404 Jeffery

458 I guess this is the exception that proves the rule, 458 Lott and 450 Rigby are an improvemnt

500s 500 NE, 500 Jeffery, 505 Gibbs

Respectfully,

Inner Curmudgeon

Way to offend half the forum with a post, good job.


Oh, and you’re correct.


But going even one step more, there is only so much ”impulse spending” on the next cartridge that exists in the industry. Every year somebody has to buy the next great thing, usually in a cheap plastic gun. We already have the 270 win. If you don’t like that, you have the 270 Weatherby. After that, there is a long line of failed 270s that were the next great thing that end in WSM, WSSM, SAUM, and other lingo.

Nosler picked a terrible time to launch a new 270 because everybody and their brother that wants to buy more nonsensical 270s is rushing to get the new military caliber 277 Fury that SIG invented. You can only have so many failing obscure rounds gush on the market at a single time. For every 25 new calibers that hit the SHOT show, *maybe* one of them has any market share at all twenty years later.

17HM2? 17WSM? 6.5x284? All the WSM/WSSM? Schultz & Larsons? Remington Electronic Ignition Calibers? Dakota calibers?

Solutions to problems we never had.
 
Way to offend half the forum with a post, good job.


Oh, and you’re correct.


But going even one step more, there is only so much ”impulse spending” on the next cartridge that exists in the industry. Every year somebody has to buy the next great thing, usually in a cheap plastic gun. We already have the 270 win. If you don’t like that, you have the 270 Weatherby. After that, there is a long line of failed 270s that were the next great thing that end in WSM, WSSM, SAUM, and other lingo.

Nosler picked a terrible time to launch a new 270 because everybody and their brother that wants to buy more nonsensical 270s is rushing to get the new military caliber 277 Fury that SIG invented. You can only have so many failing obscure rounds gush on the market at a single time. For every 25 new calibers that hit the SHOT show, *maybe* one of them has any market share at all twenty years later.

17HM2? 17WSM? 6.5x284? All the WSM/WSSM? Schultz & Larsons? Remington Electronic Ignition Calibers? Dakota calibers?

FSolutions to problems we never had.
Rhawk stop beat on my plasticfantics.
 

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