California is know to the state of California to cause cancer. I don't like the government telling me what ammo I can or can't use. Their studies are bs.
@C.W. Richter A 25-06 won't pus a 100gn that fast. My case has minimal taper, shortened neck and shoulder moved forward with a 30 degree shoulder angle. Load is 58gn of Hogdon Superformance.
My point was to say that a BT should not be considered "well placed" if shot into the shoulder of an elk. If you're going to use them, aim back into the lungs and away from the shoulder bone, and 50 yards is a chip shot for any decent rifle shooter to make that happen. I fully agree that a BT is not an optimal bullet choice for elk.
The switch from lead to steel for waterfowl wasn’t made because lead getting in the water. It was made because of lead poisoning in waterfowl. All birds eat small rocks to help break down their food. They were eating the lead pellets. In a place like Texas where the same holes are shot every weekend during season year after year there are a lot of lead BBs to ingest. Because they are migratory it can then affect bird populations across state and country lines. Upland game is not nearly as concentrated so lead will have minimal effect.
Question. What are most roofs made out of in California, I mean from the 1980s back?
You can pick on a lot of cup and core bullets for lack of penetration and poor weight retention but not the Remington core lock. It’s been consistently killing big game for a long long time.
Don't know about the west coast but on the east coast, pre 1980, roof shingles among other building materials, contained asbestos.Question. What are most roofs made out of in California, I mean from the 1980s back?
Is it like NZ and Oz where they’re all made out of corrugated iron? With a water tank for the run off……all healed on with lead head nails and lead flashing…..
himmmm maybe they should let us know how lead poisons people….ie in what state it’s most dangerous…as a dust the stuff is la killer but once it’s oxidised It’s fairly harmless. The Romans did suffer from lead poisoning but it was through there makeup not the water pipes.
Right. If they'll eat BBs they'll eat fishing weights.
And while there are different kinds of shooting, if one puts a set out in a marsh to draw birds into areas where they believe other birds will be feeding off the bottom, then shower the area with lead, yikes. Whereas I can be jigging for bass in waters adjacent to 300 foot depth, and the junk will collect in the deep waters. Alsom in fishing circles, the alternatives are actually better, there maleability is not going to affect your cast, as it does a shotgun pattern. Tungsten is denser, and generally better.
Naw I was just joking, we have decent sized deer lol. But they don't require premium ammo from a 30.06 but I kinda think the bears and big boars do lolsmallish? where are you hunting? SGLs?? State Forest in the MOFN? We have shot 250 lb deer our entire lives on farms and state land adjacent to same! Sure, my friends in Sask shoot em 100 lb larger on farms, but some really big deer reside in PA. You must simply show restraint! But, as you suggest, for woods hunting, nothing premium is required at all. We have fields 400-1,500 yds long, so one must be prepared. A better rig, handloading, trigger, optics and handloading suggested for long shots on the BIG deer that do reside in PA!If you're in scrappy, rocky low-grade state land-that .35 Rem w/ Rem ammo is just fine. To ALL PA residents: Don't shoot little (young) big Bucks! Let them grow up like many of us do!!! You shot Gary Alt. Don't do that again!
