What caliber would you bring back from the dead?

[jruby]

1) that’s why I said "same thing but English " , also the same as 280 halger magnum, but German
2) "modern powders and projectiles "

Gumpy

So what kind of speeds are you getting with your 147g bullet with your 280NE and what pressures are you running at?

 

[Grumpy gumpy]

So what kind of speeds are you getting with your 147g bullet with your 280NE and what pressures are you running at?

No idea and don’t really care, goes bang and things fall over, is more accurate than a mates tikka at 500 yards ,7 mm rem,(less assumed drop) and bolts opens easy and no obvious pressure signs, from memory case capacity is slightly higher, and has old school cool factor.
Gumpy

 

[Rolland]

Sarg
I for the 9.5 x 57 I have boxes for the 6.5

 

[jruby]

No idea and don’t really care, goes bang and things fall over, is more accurate than a mates tikka at 500 yards ,7 mm rem,(less assumed drop) and bolts opens easy and no obvious pressure signs, from memory case capacity is slightly higher, and has old school cool factor.
Gumpy

Trying to understand ballisticly how it is superior to other modern 7/8 magnum cartridges? You like it it works for you and old guns are cool these points we agree on. Superior ballistics, nope.

 

[Huvius]

9.5X57 or 375 Rimless Nitro Express for sure.
35 Winchester too.
The 350 Griffin & Howe deserves a comeback too.
Of all the ‘35s I think the 35 Newton was way before it’s time and today would be called the 35 Ruger.
That is a fantastic cartridge!

 

[Antho9364]

Of course, my favorite caliber is the 9.3x64 Brenneke, which is the epitome of the all-purpose caliber.
Unfortunately, it's poorly distributed and poorly known, but it can fire from 154g to 325g.
The Austrian brand Voere still makes it in two rifles (Voere 2155 and Voere LBW Hunter on request).
Blaser R8 also made a few rifles, but they no longer do it (making .308 and .30-06 is more profitable...).
Heym is most certainly capable of making it.
Mauser (98) still had it in its catalog 7-8 years ago; I think it's possible to order it.
And the gunmakers. Not to mention the pre-owned weapons, including the fantastic Sauer 80-90, Mauser 66, M 98, Steyr Model S, Steyr M72, Heym SR20, Krico, Blaser R93, Sauer Weatherby Mark 5, Brno ZKK 600 etc.

I'm currently working on a custom project in this caliber based on an M 98 DWM 1909 Argentino

RWS, Brenneke, SHM, HDS and other brass manufacturers (USA, Australia, and Germany make it).
I didn't know Norma made 9.3x64?!

As for other calibers, I'm also thinking of... 6.5x63 Messner magnum (it is recent)
7x57
7x66 SE VH
7.65x53 arg
8x64s
333 jeffery/318 WR
9.3x65r
404 jeffery
475 NE no2 eley
476 NE WR

 

[uplander01]

425 westley Richards. It’s a really cool round, and it’s small in stature for the power it renders. I’m surprised blaser hasn’t done it, it fits their r8 platform and would work perfectly with the way that action operates

 

[Phil Giordano]

@Phil Giordano Yes!
I went down a rabbit hole theoretically building a 7x66 Vom Hofe SE, but it just didn't seem anywhere near realistic. But what a cartridge, super fast, accurate, a killer name and connected to 300 H&H via it's predecessor the 7x73.

Probably too ahed of time when it was factory loaded...who knows...
But yes, it remains one of the greatest.
One of the "unsung heroes" in today's world.

 

[Tom Leoni]

To me it's an absolute no-brainer: the .375 Nitro Express 2.5."

A straight-walled cartridge (thus legal for deer and other game in US states that have recently allowed this mode of hunting), launching a versatile and widely available .375 bullet--typically 270gr--at around 2,000 fps. If we're not talking double rifles and their regulation, handloading can make this cartridge insanely versatile.

Super-easy to reload, low pressure, inherently accurate (if you believe some cartridges can possess this quality), recoiling mildly, and good for most game out to about 150-200 yards. If it was more popular, I wouldn't hesitate chambering it in a light Chapuis double rifle or even an Uberti Courteney.

 

[uplander01]

To me it's an absolute no-brainer: the .375 Nitro Express 2.5."

A straight-walled cartridge (thus legal for deer and other game in US states that have recently allowed this mode of hunting), launching a versatile and widely available .375 bullet--typically 270gr--at around 2,000 fps. If we're not talking double rifles and their regulation, handloading can make this cartridge insanely versatile.

Super-easy to reload, low pressure, inherently accurate (if you believe some cartridges can possess this quality), recoiling mildly, and good for most game out to about 150-200 yards. If it was more popular, I wouldn't hesitate chambering it in a light Chapuis double rifle or even an Uberti Courteney.

Tom---if we really wanted to score a big hit with this crowd, we need to make a Farquharson action true to form of a Gibbs and chamber it in some interesting caliber like this 375 2.5". I'd have one....has anyone ever dissected one of those to see if it could be done?

 

[Beck]

Define dead?

I wish the 358 Norma was readily available. It is mostly dead.

Both the 450 NE and 350 Rigby are more dead than the 358 Norma, but you can get ammo. No factory rifles made for any of the 3.

What makes it dead?

I have a .358 Norma - awesome caliber

 

[Russ16]

It has its drawbacks and reasons it isn’t around anymore but for pure vintage fun 220 Swift.

 

[Grandpa Moose]

Hey i must be getting close to my end. I shoot 348, 7-57, 300 H&H,, 25–20 regularly along with a dozen other obsolete calibers for fun and kicks

 

[Bush Buck]

For SAAMI cartridges I'd say 338-06. This cartridge deserves to be much more popular and available than it is.
It basically does the same job as a 300 Win Mag if you're an under 300 yard hunter but is more pleasant to shoot. I also like that it can be loaded with ubiquitous 30-06 brass.

I'd also say 35 Whelen - but I'm happy to say that this appears to be happening.

 

[Choupique]

We're single handedly keeping the .35 whelen alive in Louisiana. Everybody has one now because they are legal for "primitive" deer season.

 

[Ridge Runner]

Just for fun I'm going to go nostalgia:

32-20
38-55
5mm
17 but I don’t remember the lettering it was a long (big) cartridge, nothing like today's tiny 17.
16 gauge

 

[PerH]

The cartridge 7x66 S.E vom Hofe and especially the 9,3x64 Brenneke still have a following. Bringing them back from the dead is not necessary, rather preventing them from dying. The 7x66 is very much at risk, and with the 9,3x64, you never know. she was close to dying once, but has recovered somewhat. The problem also lies in the fact that everyone internationally is fixated on the marginal cartridge 9,3x62, although the cartridge 9,3x64 is superior and definitely more suitable for hunting dangerous game in Africa. Unfortunately, she has not the aura of the cartridge 9,3x62 and seems to be unknown to the majority.

In general, what was not reactivated did not demonstrate any clear advantages over other cartridges from the same period. This includes cartridges like the 318 WR or 350 Rigby. Ultimately, it's just a matter of personal passion to bring back from the dead an old

The 7x66 SE Vom Hofe - Revivaler

The 7x66 Super Express Vom Hofe cartridge has enjoyed a dedicated following in Europe but is almost unheard of in the United States. It is a cartridge that has recently experienced something of a renaissance however as it has been effectively redesigned and reborn as the 28 Nosler.

revivaler.com

Simplest to compare it with the 28 Noslet as he do

But it don’t have the swung as the 7x66 and one dedicated user of it was Hans Otto Meissner

 

[Muskox]

24 Gauge is still a thing here in Europe. Not a lot of them but they are around.

I have not figured out why people keep posting things that are truly available if you spend some cash to get them.

5mm Remington not available.

7x33 Sako really tough to get but certainly not impossible

256 Winchester available

300 Jamison maybe this one is unavailable

276 Pedersen, was this ever available?

 

[Muskox]

The 7x66 SE Vom Hofe - Revivaler

The 7x66 Super Express Vom Hofe cartridge has enjoyed a dedicated following in Europe but is almost unheard of in the United States. It is a cartridge that has recently experienced something of a renaissance however as it has been effectively redesigned and reborn as the 28 Nosler.

revivaler.com

Simplest to compare it with the 28 Noslet as he do

But it don’t have the swung as the 7x66 and one dedicated user of it was Hans Otto Meissner

The 7x66 is still an uncommon but readily available caliber here in Germany. There are at least 2 or 3 rifles and a bit of ammo available every day on egun.

The boutique German makers are still putting out.

 

[Huvius]

Tom---if we really wanted to score a big hit with this crowd, we need to make a Farquharson action true to form of a Gibbs and chamber it in some interesting caliber like this 375 2.5". I'd have one....has anyone ever dissected one of those to see if it could be done?

Sure it could be done.
Really, the 375 2-1/2” would be just about ideal in a Ruger No.1